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asking for a raise after a promotion: why it's harder than it sounds and what actually worked

sre_sol · 5 replies

got promoted from senior SRE to staff six months ago. my raise was 6%. which sounds fine until you calculate that the staff band at my company goes up to about 40% above where i was set.

so i had a title and a salary that didn't match. the worst of both worlds, as it turned out: staff expectations, senior pay, and a manager who'd already "given" me something and felt the conversation was over.

spent two months being vaguely annoyed before i actually did something about it.

what i did:

step 1: anchored on the band, not on what I deserved. told my manager i'd done some research and found that staff-level engineers at comparable companies in our market were being compensated in the $210-240k range. my current comp was $192k. i wasn't asking for $240k, but i was hoping to get into the right zone for my title.

note: i did not say "i deserve more" or reference the promotion. that framing makes it about the past. the band framing makes it about current market reality.

step 2: made it easy for them. i wrote a short document (1 page). what i'd shipped in the last 6 months, 2-3 concrete impact points, market data footnoted. gave it to my manager before our 1:1 so she could take it to her skip-level.

step 3: asked for a specific number. $215k. not "more." not "a meaningful adjustment." $215k.

what happened: got $208k plus a confirmation they'd reassess again at the 12-month mark. not everything i asked for, but $16k more than i'd gotten at promotion.

if i'd just hoped the next cycle would fix it, it wouldn't have.

if you got a title change with a small raise: the gap between your current pay and the top of your new band is your negotiating case. use it.

5 replies

director_dee

the 1-page document move is more effective than most engineers realize. managers genuinely struggle to go to HR or skip-levels with "my report says they deserve more." a document gives us something to carry into the room. make it easy for your manager to advocate for you.

staff_steph

the band framing vs. personal-merit framing is such an important distinction. "I deserve" is hard to fight for on behalf of someone else. "the band says" is a fact a manager can repeat.

qa_quinn

this is really useful for thinking ahead. i'm just starting my first job but i'm going to keep this framework in mind when the first performance cycle comes around.

sre_sol

start documenting your work from day 1. when review season comes, you'll have receipts. most people can't remember what they shipped 6 months ago. the people who get the good raises can.

quietquit_quincy

what's the move if your manager is checked out and won't take anything to HR? asking for a friend who is definitely me.