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how to tell if you have burnout or just a bad job

sre_sol · 4 replies

been sitting with this question for six months and i think i finally have an answer, or at least my answer.

bad job: you dread mondays but feel okay by wednesday. you complain about your manager but you still care about the output. you can turn off at 6pm. you'd take the same job at a better company.

burnout: it doesn't matter what day it is. you've stopped caring whether the thing you built is good. you have the emotional bandwidth of a depleted phone battery and no charger in sight. you'd turn down the same role at a company you actually respect because you don't trust yourself to perform.

that last one is the tell for me. when i stopped believing i could do my job well, that wasn't about my employer. that was burnout.

i'm an SRE. the pager is relentless. we had 11 months of P0s in a row, which is insane but also just. tech. what crept up on me wasn't the incidents themselves. it was that i stopped doing anything after an incident. no blameless retro, no fixing the alerting, just. closed the ticket and waited for the next one. that detachment is what i should have caught.

things that helped me distinguish them: take a week off and notice if you feel relief or nothing. relief = bad job. nothing = burnout. ask if you'd feel differently in a different role at a different company. if the answer is genuinely no, that's burnout. track how many times in a week you feel anything about your work. pride, frustration, investment. if it's zero, something is wrong.

the tricky middle ground is when a bad job CAUSES burnout. that's real. but the fix is different. quitting doesn't restore capacity if the capacity itself is gone.

i stayed too long trying to fix the job when i should have been restoring myself. six months of therapy, sleep hygiene, and genuinely boring weekends later: i can care about infrastructure again. didn't expect to miss it.

4 replies

laidoff_lena

the 'take a week off and notice if you feel relief or nothing' test is actually really good. i took PTO in january and felt nothing. went back to work and still felt nothing. that should have been my signal. instead i interpreted it as 'i just need a longer vacation' and then got laid off in march. retrospectively: i was burned out before the layoff, and the layoff somehow helped? like the decision got made for me.

sam_recovering

this is so common and i think people don't talk about it enough. burnout + layoff happens a lot. the company restructures and the burned out people are often the ones who've quietly underperformed for a while. not because they're bad at their jobs but because they've been running on empty. the layoff lands and you're devastated AND weirdly relieved simultaneously. it's a confusing feeling.

backend_bekah

the fintech on-call grind does this. 3am production incident, fix it, 9am standup, don't mention you slept 3 hours. repeat for 18 months. i genuinely did not know i had stopped caring until my PM asked me if i was excited about the Q3 launch and i said 'sure' in the most robotic voice. she looked at me weird. i should have listened to her face.

director_dee

from the manager side: the detachment you're describing is usually visible before the person notices it themselves. flat responses in 1:1s. missing the enthusiasm they used to have for problems they care about. not the performance dip, that comes later. the early signal is affect. if you manage people: watch for the ones who stop having opinions.